AndtothatIrejoin：-Omyfather，didyounotwishmetoliveashappilyaspossible？AndyetyoualsoneverceasedtellingmethatI
shouldliveasjustlyaspossible。Now，herethegiveroftherule，whetherhebelegislatororfather，willbeinadilemma，andwillinvainendeavourtobeconsistentwithhimself。Butifheweretodeclarethatthejustestlifeisalsothehappiest，everyonehearinghimwouldenquire，ifIamnotmistaken，whatisthatgoodandnobleprincipleinlifewhichthelawapproves，andwhichissuperiortopleasure。Forwhatgoodcanthejustmanhavewhichisseparatedfrompleasure？Shallwesaythatgloryandfame，comingfromGodsandmen，thoughgoodandnoble，areneverthelessunpleasant，andinfamypleasant？Certainlynot，sweetlegislator。Orshallwesaythatthenot-doingofwrongandtherebeingnowrongdoneisgoodandhonourable，althoughthereisnopleasureinit，andthatthedoingwrongispleasant，butevilandbase？
Cle。Impossible。
Ath。Theviewwhichidentifiesthepleasantandthepleasantandthejustandthegoodandthenoblehasanexcellentmoralandreligioustendency。Andtheoppositeviewismostatvariancewiththedesignsofthelegislator，andis，inhisopinion，infamous；fornoone，ifhecanhelp，willbepersuadedtodothatwhichgiveshimmorepainthanpleasure。Butasdistantprospectsareapttomakeusdizzy，especiallyinchildhood，thelegislatorwilltrytopurgeawaythedarknessandexhibitthetruth；hewillpersuadethecitizens，insomewayorother，bycustomsandpraisesandwords，thatjustandunjustareshadowsonly，andthatinjustice，whichseemsopposedtojustice，whencontemplatedbytheunjustandevilmanappearspleasantandthejustmostunpleasant；butthatfromthejustman’spointofview，theveryoppositeistheappearanceofbothofthem。
Cle。True。