Since，then，thepleasuresofeachclassandthelifeofeachareindispute，andthequestionisnotwhichlifeismoreorlesshonourable，orbetterorworse，butwhichisthemorepleasantorpainless——howshallweknowwhospeakstruly？
Icannotmyselftell，hesaid。
Well，butwhatoughttobethecriterion？Isanybetterthanexperienceandwisdomandreason？
Therecannotbeabetter，hesaid。
Then，Isaid，reflect。Ofthethreeindividuals，whichhasthegreatestexperienceofallthepleasureswhichweenumerated？Hastheloverofgain，inlearningthenatureofessentialtruth，greaterexperienceofthepleasureofknowledgethanthephilosopherhasofthepleasureofgain？