Ath。ComenowandletusalljoininaskingthisquestionofTyrtaeus：Omostdivinepoet，wewillsaytohim，theexcellentpraisewhichyouhavebestowedonthosewhoexcelinwarsufficientlyprovesthatyouarewiseandgood，andIandMegillusandCleiniasofCnosusdo，asIbelieve，entirelyagreewithyou。Butweshouldliketobequitesurethatwearespeakingofthesamemen；tellus，then，doyouagreewithusinthinkingthattherearetwokindsofwar；orwhatwouldyousay？AfarinferiormantoTyrtaeuswouldhavenodifficultyinreplyingquitetruly，thatwarisoftwokindsonewhichisuniversallycalledcivilwar，andisaswewerejustnowsaying，ofallwarstheworst；theother，asweshouldalladmit，inwhichwefalloutwithothernationswhoareofadifferentrace，isafarmilderformofwarfare。
Cle。Certainly，farmilder。
Ath。Well，now，whenyoupraiseandblamewarinthishigh-flownstrain，whomareyoupraisingorblaming，andtowhichkindofwarareyoureferring？Isupposethatyoumustmeanforeignwar，ifIamtojudgefromexpressionsofyoursinwhichyousaythatyouabominatethoseWhorefusetolookuponfieldsofblood，andwillnotdrawnearandstrikeattheirenemies。
Andweshallnaturallygoontosaytohim-You，Tyrtaeus，asitseems，praisethosewhodistinguishthemselvesinexternalandforeignwar；
andhemustadmitthis。